Mono black

4 tech edge
1 eye of ugin
20 other lands (some combination of swamps and fetch)
4 hexmage
4 gate keeper
2 night hawk
2 work coil engine
2 skin render
2 mind sludge
3 grasp of darkness
3 smother
2 ratchet bomb
3 duress
2 inquision
2 mires blight
2 Soren
2 liliana

Side
3 memoriside
3 minc vat
2 mind sludge
2 doom blade
3 brittle effigy
2 consume the meek

Other cards I was thinking about...haunting echos rapes dredge vine...and maybe tutor I'm not sure on that one...

Did I miss something, what's the Eye of Ugin for...? Just the 2x Wurmcoil Engines...? I don't think I would devote a land that doesn't even tap for mana for two creatures in your deck. If that's all you're going to use it for, why not just add a 4CC diabolic tutor instead of a 7 mana activated land that is vunerable? I guess to kill other people's Eyes, doesn't seem worth it when you're running 4x Tech edges. Just my 2 cents!

Looks fun though. Skinrender is awesome with gatekeepers.

i like the list. it looks comprehensively tuned. i hope it can perform well enough against rdw. the goal of that match up appears to be holding out until wurmcoil hits the board, at which point you tip your hat and move on to the winner's dance. leyline of the void also pees on dredgevine. that would be the only possible suggestion.

how do you even have a chance against mono green eldrazi? this also seems really weak against any of the G/U or G/R ramp strategies.

magic jesus wrote:

how do you even have a chance against mono green eldrazi? this also seems really weak against any of the G/U or G/R ramp strategies.

without sufficient testing, i can't speak to actual metrics but prima facie, the mono green match up doesn't strike me as that disparate.
the ramp match up really looks like the issue. even when it doesn't combo off, it'll still kill you sometimes. this is, however, without any real testing at all. i'd be curious to see how a deck like this performs but don't personally have the wurmcoil engines to drive the thing.

workshoptelescope wrote:

magic jesus wrote:

how do you even have a chance against mono green eldrazi? this also seems really weak against any of the G/U or G/R ramp strategies.

without sufficient testing, i can't speak to actual metrics but prima facie, the mono green match up doesn't strike me as that disparate.
the ramp match up really looks like the issue. even when it doesn't combo off, it'll still kill you sometimes. this is, however, without any real testing at all. i'd be curious to see how a deck like this performs but don't personally have the wurmcoil engines to drive the thing.

the mono green should be your real bad matchup, they just drop wurmcoils on turn 3-2 and kozaliks on turn 5

I built the deck with agrro in mind...I don't think the mono green is that bad of A match up between the discard and removal I think the card that worries me is monument...

i also agree with ryry.. eye of ugin?? lol

It acts like a third worm coil?

chops wrote:

It acts like a third worm coil?

no, it acts as a shitty tutor for your 2 wurmcoils.